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Re: StatArb Pro
« Reply #255 on: June 12, 2012, 02:03:43 am »
Hi StatarbPro,
Do you ever close trades out manually on your own accounts using the 2X risk formua or let them run to their actual closing point? 
« Last Edit: June 12, 2012, 02:27:15 am by littlemax »

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Re: StatArb Pro
« Reply #256 on: June 12, 2012, 03:39:29 am »
Still have open pairs trading:
AUDJPY/EURCAD
CHPJPY/USDSGD
GBPJPY/EURAUD

Still in profit, been oscillating between negative and positive mostly positive....no signal to close yet.....

Got some new pairs but no signals yet

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Re: StatArb Pro
« Reply #257 on: June 12, 2012, 03:47:06 am »
@ statarbpro, or anyone who has read the manual, refer page 28, about trade exits, see quote, thanks for discussion  8)

5. Exit trades either:
a. Winner - At the trigger. There is no need to confirm an exit signal.
b. Loser - If the trade reaches 2X your risk parameter. Meaning:
1. Your risk is set to 1%
2. You have a $10,000 balance.
3. The trade is drawn down $200 or 2%.

So, when I set my initial trade position size, according to what I thought was my RISK eg 1%, now I see that I really need 1/2 that size because my real RISK is 2% ???

Now, is that 2% for both positions, if not, hey maybe I'm now down 4% due to having 2 trades open correct?

I wonder how the EA is going to make these critical calculations when it goes live, or will is just trade an arbitrary standard size of 0.10 something like that?

No, 2% risk is 2% risk for the entire arb basket.

And no, it can't trade an arbitrary lot size. That would defeat the entire position normalizing / market neutral methodology and skew risk to one side or the other. If you're reading a euro pair, and aussie par and your account is in USD, everything has to come back to USD as that's what your risk is based on. 100K EUR is 126K USD at the moment and 100K AUD is 99K USD, everything is as neutral as we can make it so no, arbitrary lot sizing would not be proper.

And as far as the EA controlling risk, it's really quite simple. A magic # is assigned to any 1 arb trade. PL is calculated for that arb trade and if DD reached the threshold the arb is closed. Same for the overall basket of arb pairs.

Yeah, OK, great answer, but my main point was about the Manual saying "EXIT : When trade is 2 times your RISK" - Why can't it just say Exit: When your 2% Risk is reached? Why does it have to be 2 times something?

Thanks again, hope to have my indicator soon

You're correct, I will clarify that in the manual.

And I know I sent your indicator and login details out yesterday. Please check your SPAM folder. A Lot of our stuff gets delivered there for some reason. I'm assuming because it's a relatively new domain and we have a LOT of email traffic coming and going.

OK, sounds great, and yes, looks like I missed my copy as I got the confirmation email and then nothing until the support email about 1.3 issues & how to resolve them. Both of those are in my Inbox and say they are from StatArb Pro; not sure how I missed the Indicator email?

Have to contact support somehow...

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Re: StatArb Pro
« Reply #258 on: June 12, 2012, 04:17:51 am »
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Re: StatArb Pro
« Reply #259 on: June 12, 2012, 05:57:39 am »
Hi, please, so far, what was your maximum DD per pair? On a 0.01 basis. Thanks
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Re: StatArb Pro
« Reply #260 on: June 12, 2012, 10:22:32 am »
Please be aware that it is not correct to simply add profit values of two different currencies in pip units, because a pip of one currency does not have the same value in account currency terms as a pip in another currency. A "pip" becomes ambiguous when you are trading different currencies, so you need to specify a pip of what currency, and you cannot add pip values of different currencies without conversion to a common currency.

The vendor provides a good example in which if you add pip amounts (a wrong thing to do), the trade is a loss, but if you convert to USD currency, it's in reality a profit:


So making claims that you made hundreds of pips in a day is meaningless. In order to quote correct profit figures, you need to convert the pip amounts of each side from quote currencies to account currency, and then sum to calculate net profit.

So to those guys who are reporting profits in real-time, please do so in units of your account currency instead of in pips.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2012, 10:26:01 am by Hyperdimension »

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Re: StatArb Pro
« Reply #261 on: June 12, 2012, 10:31:56 am »
Hello everybody.

I am now inside this ship  :)

I have open the pick EURSEK USDCAD, which signaled yesteday

XOden, don't you have trigger this signal yesterday night?


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Re: StatArb Pro
« Reply #262 on: June 12, 2012, 12:28:16 pm »
You're right and if you actively read the previous posts, you'd note that I did mention that even though I made alot of pips, my % gains have risen only a small % total, not much partly due to the small lot sizes I'm trading and the pip values not being equal...that said....I made several decent runs with a couple tiny losses but much bigger wins....overall..was in no danger of getting stopped is all I can say.

In the end, my perspective through this entire trading ordeal is consistency.  If I'm consistent, I couldn't care less if I make a pip or 100 pips or a 1000 pips...because if I'm consistent, I know that I can confidently increase my lot sizes.

I've quintipled in account before making only 50 pips....but once again, the consistency allowed me the confidence to do so.


Please be aware that it is not correct to simply add profit values of two different currencies in pip units, because a pip of one currency does not have the same value in account currency terms as a pip in another currency. A "pip" becomes ambiguous when you are trading different currencies, so you need to specify a pip of what currency, and you cannot add pip values of different currencies without conversion to a common currency.

The vendor provides a good example in which if you add pip amounts (a wrong thing to do), the trade is a loss, but if you convert to USD currency, it's in reality a profit:


So making claims that you made hundreds of pips in a day is meaningless. In order to quote correct profit figures, you need to convert the pip amounts of each side from quote currencies to account currency, and then sum to calculate net profit.

So to those guys who are reporting profits in real-time, please do so in units of your account currency instead of in pips.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2012, 12:59:33 pm by XOden »

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Re: StatArb Pro
« Reply #263 on: June 12, 2012, 12:32:10 pm »
I did not trigger anything yesterday....I was honestly not at my desk and when I did come to the desk and I loaded v1.3, I had a couple issues with one or two charts not loading..in any case, I have my spreadsheet on my other pc, so in a sense, I'm a bit loss for the pairs I have open at the moment embarrasingly....my laptop is in the car and I need to go get it....I removed the previous version of stat arb which had all my pairings..now I'll have to retrace and see what pairs I took with what other pairs :)

But no I did not enter a trade last night...Ill have to get back in today...my open trades above are still open...I believe they're still in profit, but its been fluctuating up and down....so I may decide to close out today or wait another couple days, so far no exit signals, that's why I've left them open....trying to behave myself and be good...

Hello everybody.

I am now inside this ship  :)

I have open the pick EURSEK USDCAD, which signaled yesteday

XOden, don't you have trigger this signal yesterday night?

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Re: StatArb Pro
« Reply #264 on: June 12, 2012, 02:51:55 pm »
A question @StatArb. Will StatArb Pro still be available for ~300$ when reopening the sales? I'm afraid that this will not be the case anymore.
Was just about to purchase it a few minutes ago but... too late (as you know)... :(

Thanks
Chris

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Re: StatArb Pro
« Reply #265 on: June 12, 2012, 03:21:32 pm »
How do I get the info panel on the indicator to show the hand symbol with finger pointing up and down?

The indicator shows "System loaded successfully" and installation went fine otherwise.

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Re: StatArb Pro
« Reply #266 on: June 12, 2012, 03:30:48 pm »
I am waiting for a signal on EUR/SEK + USDCAD - so is it our provider that is off? The indicator still hasn't crossed the line back again...

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Re: StatArb Pro
« Reply #267 on: June 12, 2012, 05:16:18 pm »
I understand the trigged signals depend of your broker because the close daily bar time is different for the brokers, mine is FXCM and the close daily bar time is 00:00 GMT. So in this broker (FXCM) yesteday the indicator crossed the line back again, only for a little but it crossed, I think that if your broker has a different close bar time the indicator may be a little different and maybe you didn't have the signal...

Startarb, could you say us what is the close daily bar time of your broker? can this difference in broker times be important?

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Re: StatArb Pro
« Reply #268 on: June 12, 2012, 05:36:14 pm »
For Foxi and donnauserda

Wait until the blue line is crossing back the green line, as in instruction manual. Be patient people
« Last Edit: June 12, 2012, 06:16:54 pm by ovisun »

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Re: StatArb Pro
« Reply #269 on: June 12, 2012, 06:04:31 pm »
ovisun, I understand that the signal did not trigger for you too... maybe it trigger only for me, like I said I understand the trigged signals depend of your broker because the close daily bar time is different for the brokers, mine is FXCM and the close daily bar time is 00:00 GMT and in this broker yesteday the indicator crossed the line back again (for a little but crossed), I think that if your broker has a different close bar time the indicator may be a little different and maybe you didn't have the signal...

For this reasson I asked Startarb if he could say us what is the close daily bar time of his broker and if this differences between brokers times can be important?

 

 
 
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